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February 27, 2006

Out For Three Days

So here we have it:

Screenshots, a popular blog by Jeff Ooi, is down due to suspected distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks. [Malaysiakini]

You could say that for the next 72 hours, Jeff Ooi won't be able to incite religious hatred against anyone.

Or maybe Jeff should take it as having his publishing permit suspended for 72 hours.

That's a full three days longer than the New Straits Times has had to suffer when it incited religious hatred against itself.

Posted by aisehman at February 27, 2006 07:12 PM

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Not surprised at all, I think this fellow has gone too far. Just because he has his own Blog he thinks he write or say anything. He can be arrested and charged under the ISA and sent to Kamunting for 2 years for inciting hatred, it is about time someone shut him for inciting racial issues.On the recent cartoons on the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), he provided a link for people to see and this is also an offence as it is an indirect incitation.

Many other bloggers like Aisehman for eg., speak their mind and use profanities but that is OK as long as you do not incite racial hatred and hurt other people's feelings. He behaves like a kid out of a Power Rangers movie and the NST and its editors are his grinding stone to sharpen his spear. I hope the special Branch will keep an eye on him from now on as people like him can corrupt the minds of peace loving seniors like me.

Keep up your good work Aisehman, wonder what is your real name, never mind lah , just be good.

Posted by: samasama at February 28, 2006 12:37 AM

"You could say that for the next 72 hours, Jeff Ooi won't be able to incite religious hatred against anyone."

Where and when did Jeff ooi do something as you said above?

Posted by: reader at February 28, 2006 09:36 AM

samasama,
have you read jeffooi's blog? if not, then please do not speak from your ass. there is NO 'inciting of racial hatred' on the website. jeff pointed out what NST has done, and done TWICE, and this is the kind of response you can expect when you tell others of their fault.

whistle blowers have no place in the malaysian community. we have the culture of 'shooting the messenger'.

Posted by: trancebum at February 28, 2006 09:55 AM

Its a good time for Jeff to take a much needed break and its just the way it is in Bolehland !
We are not ready to be open minded now or ever will be because of the many sensitivities we have inherited from as far back as the Brits 'divide and rule' regime.Its always alright to wave the Kris but never the 'mouse'.
*Jeff do come back refreshed and may people in cyberspace continue to have your blog as a Matured/Open minded /Sensible Man's forum !

Posted by: Rich L at February 28, 2006 10:13 AM

Is there a possibility for a self-inflicted DDos?
Just wondering.

Posted by: shar at February 28, 2006 01:04 PM

I do not agree with aisehman on this. Jeff did not set out to incite religious hatred against anyone, at least there's no reason for him to do so. It will be good if anyone could provide me with one good motivation for him to do that.

samasama wrote,...
"... Just because he has his own Blog he thinks he write or say anything. He can be arrested and charged under the ISA and sent to Kamunting for 2 years for inciting hatred, it is about time someone shut him for inciting racial issues...."


wow, tough talk, and fyi, he can and should say and write anything he deem suitable simply because it is his blog....by the way, if the gov were to do that, more than half of our politicians will be camping in Kemunting by now...


samasama wrote,...
".... On the recent cartoons on the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), he provided a link for people to see and this is also an offence as it is an indirect incitation....."


... my fren, this is a global agenda, widely reported even in our newspaper. Everyone that can access the internet, muslim or otherwise would try to search for the offending cartoons. was it that difficult? some wants to know how offending it was(and is) while most are just plain curious. Was there any difference if you were to be punched now or 1 minute later? Argue with me on this ...


samasama wrote,...
".... Many other bloggers like Aisehman for eg., speak their mind and use profanities but that is OK as long as you do not incite racial hatred and hurt other people's feelings... "


really..? or was it some cheap attempt to get the host to agree to your other views?
hey, my shoes are dirty too!!! whoa ha ha ha!


samasama wrote,...
"I hope the special Branch will keep an eye on him from now on as people like him can corrupt the minds of peace loving seniors like me..."


wow, jeff would never have thought that by providing links to offending caricature and speaking up on current issues can actually 'Corrupt The Minds Of Peace Loving Seniors like me....'

tell me samasama, am i corrupting yours now? :)

jeff views can be flawed, so does aisehman and everyone else. it is through this sort of exchange that we learn to think critically of current issues surrounding us....

samasama wrote,
" Keep up your good work Aisehman, wonder what is your real name, never mind lah , just be good."

you better be, aisehman... otherwise some senior kodok would leap out of it's coconut shell and report you to the Internal Ministry for corrupting his peaceful yet dangerously fragile(read:sensitive) mind...

be a good good boy....

Posted by: chicken_feet at February 28, 2006 03:02 PM

Oh no...not another Jeff Ooi apologist..

Sorry folks but Jeff and his forum reminds me of toilet wall. Most of the messages look like graffiti scrawled on the public tiolets by the uneducated and the intolerant. No constructive comments can be found in the Screenshot, most people just go there just to "lepas steam".

How on earth he could be labeled as the champion of free speech is beyond me. Giving Jeff such honor is akin to calling Hugh Hefner (the Playboy founder) a Freedom Figher (for liberating us sexually). He bans people for questioning him and dare to differ from him. He censors messages yet he get to be called as the free speech advocate.

Posted by: Tanglimara at February 28, 2006 03:40 PM

Tanglimara,

There are many constructive comments in Jeff's blog and there are many instances where people just lepas steam. It was in Jeff's blog that I read aisehman comments on the Moorthy's case. It was then that I make it a point to visit this blog daily.

Jeff's apologist - not to him as a person but specifically of him providing a venue to put forward my own comments and arguments (however childish or ignorant), and of reading others comments as well.

Posted by: chicken_feet at February 28, 2006 06:29 PM

To all the apologists of this so called 'champion' blogger, why not let him talk the talk and answer for himself. I agree with Tanglimara and Samasama, this guy does incite hatred on his blog unless you have myopia or some cerebal weakness that you cannot read between the thin lines.

Chicken feet, you name fits your description. Many a time I had challenged him on his blog, but he never post, WHY WHY , may I ask, Why, chicken feet huh, he will only post on his blog if you subscribe to his narrow hatred thoughts and he gives a platform to others to hammer in his style.

We welcome bloggers, but please do not stir hatred by using your Blog as a front lah, we are multi racial and multi religious, peace and respect should be the agenda of the day.

A Professional Speaker will not run down another speaker and blow his own trumpet but in this case , he grinds his axe on the NST fellows and portrays as a champion of others... boo hoo hahahaahh ( You notice that his name is not even mentioned in my posting, haha, What Champion blogger, WHO WHO )

Posted by: Aziah at February 28, 2006 07:47 PM

chicken_feet,
Same topic, different presentation. How many times in the past have J.O. used a controversial angle to put up his post. Far too many. Controversy sells, sensationalism sells. More scandalous presentation, more hits on his blog. He's like a bull-terrier with far too many bones in his jaw. So did he win any 'blog of the year award' category?
Btw, does being childish mean calling somebody 'kodok'? You may not be an apologist but you certainly are disrespectfully ignorant.
Nuff said.

Posted by: shar at February 28, 2006 08:31 PM

"Oh no...not another Jeff Ooi apologist..

Sorry folks but Jeff and his forum reminds me of toilet wall. Most of the messages look like graffiti scrawled on the public tiolets by the uneducated and the intolerant. No constructive comments can be found in the Screenshot, most people just go there just to "lepas steam".

How on earth he could be labeled as the champion of free speech is beyond me. Giving Jeff such honor is akin to calling Hugh Hefner (the Playboy founder) a Freedom Figher (for liberating us sexually). He bans people for questioning him and dare to differ from him. He censors messages yet he get to be called as the free speech advocate."

Tanglimara,

Are you then, blaming Jeff for any comments made by other people? You seem to have a tendency to blur the lines. Don't.

He censors messages for self preservation. I'm sure you wouldn't like Berita Harian calling for your detention under the ISA (which it has against Jeff). Let's not bring up the fact that Jeff 'ungkits' the matter all too frequenty, as that's not relevant to the censorship.

Advocate of free speech? Hell yeah. See we have to view things relative to his environment. He is after all, in Malaysia and he's dissent is remarkable considering our stifling environment and the prominence of the blog.

An apologist I certainly am not, but I see good and bad as much as I can. If you only see what you consider bad within a person, he'd be the devil. You it seems, have painted him with horns. Your blatant hate does not take into account valid issues that his blog has raised and as such proves your extremely biased view.

Posted by: oster at March 1, 2006 03:08 AM

samasama, Tanglimara, Aziah and shar, please do not incite racial hatred here!

Posted by: sonicwall at March 1, 2006 01:05 PM

I think this is the best time for Jeff to take his much needed time off to some Tak Bolehlands for a nice Spring holidays and come back to continue the good work.

Posted by: atan at March 1, 2006 06:24 PM

Oh yeah, the Most Influential Blogger in Malaysia indeed should take a well deserved break to some far away land.Most of us actually would be happier still if he migrates permanently to someplace like Thailand, the Philippines or even Iraq where Western-style democracy and free speech is thriving and continue his good work there.

Posted by: Tanglimara at March 1, 2006 11:42 PM

"Oh yeah, the Most Influential Blogger in Malaysia indeed should take a well deserved break to some far away land.Most of us actually would be happier still if he migrates permanently to someplace like Thailand, the Philippines or even Iraq where Western-style democracy and free speech is thriving and continue his good work there."

The steward of Malaysia speaks. I guess it's up to you to decide who deserves Malaysia and who doesn't eh?

Posted by: oster at March 2, 2006 04:27 AM

Did it occurs to you (Tanglimara) that no one really gives a damn on those 'champion of free speech' and 'most influential blogger' titles except you alone?

It seems that you are having a real hard time to accept the fact that people do visit and comment on Jeff's blog because of these current issues that were brought up along with the corresponding argument and counter arguments.

So far, all I see from you is basically what you said about others in Jeff's blog - just 'lepas steam'. Very little facts and arguments but plenty of emotions. Great! Stay on in this blog and say all you want, as I do not expect quality arguments with you.

By the way, you mention -
"Most of us actually would be happier..."

Since when do you speak FOR the majority? And...enlightened me on this - Why are you unhappy? Are you forced to read Jeff's blog every morning? Or are you unhappy that there are people who disagrees with you and get away with it? Or was it because you are not able to stop people from visiting Jeff's Blog? Are you unhappy with yourself?

Tell us exactly in plain english, Why are you unhappy?

Bear in mind Tanglimara, I do not expect my view and opinions to be perfect or correct at any time. And I am willing to be corrected, which is why I read other people's opinions with an open mind, ready to accept other people opinions and alter mine, if their arguments are valid and logical.
Aisehman comments on Moorthy's case let me understand the issue from the perspective of a Muslim. To me that is a tremendous gain in knowledge. Do you share the same spirit?

Shar wrote :
"...J.O. used a controversial angle to put up his post. Far too many. Controversy sells, sensationalism sells. More scandalous presentation, more hits on his blog. ..."

So what he gain from this? What's wrong with a controversial angle? Sell to who? Are you saying that we should always take things as it is and never to question? Again,... explain yourself and a good point to start is in telling us what Jeff would gain by 'sensationalising' issues...

Shar wrote :
" ...Btw, does being childish mean calling somebody 'kodok'?...."

I am prepare to apologise if he is prepare to come out of his tempurung and defend his opinion. Otherwise, based on his what he wrote, he is still very much one....

Posted by: chicken_feet at March 2, 2006 11:24 AM

Had a good laugh while reading the comments by chicken_feet, oster and other JO apologists.

Obviously people like chicken_feet have plenty of time on hand to reply lengthy, long-winded and somewhat furiously worded replies to rebut my short post. It is kind of funny to see people writing in with such comprehensive and analytical replies that reminded me of "karangan" of my school days.

I would like to apologise profusely to all the apologists out there that I do not intend to reply in kind as I am not as blessed as chicken_feet when it comes to free time (perhaps his blog is down too). Just go back and re-read my original post and reply to the real issues that I raised...

Posted by: Tanglimara at March 2, 2006 02:27 PM

Aisehman

Any update on Jeff Ooi and Screenshots?

I thought the 72 hours have long passed.

Posted by: dignity2u at March 2, 2006 02:42 PM



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